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Cedar Valley or Shakertown?

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Any one have experience with these panelized cedar siding products? I'm planning a re-siding job and need to use a panelized product because the house is sheathed with homosote except for the corners. Any info is greatly appreciated.

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We use a good bit of the Cedar Valley, and haven't had any problems.

Pluses: goes up quick, siding subs will hang it relatively cheaper than individual shingles, doesn't warp, curl, or shrink over time.

Minuses: costs a whole bunch more than #1 shingles even considering labor, waste on gables is purely atrocious, and you'll end up with exposed nails.

MHO,
Bill

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Chuck,

I was hoping to see more responses here as I'm faced with a similar decision for my own house. I can tell you that Cedar Valley's pre-sale customer service wasn't very good, while Shakertown has been very helpful, for what that's worth.

Bill - Would you have any problems using panelized shakers on the larger areas, mixed with individual shingles on the gables? Would they come out looking the same? I'm also concerned about the exposed nail.

Jack

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Chuck,
I'm slightly biased toward the Shakertown product because I'm one of their sales reps. Shakertown can get the waste factor down as low as 5%if you use their single course panel. The single course panel also has no predetermined top or bottom. The scrap at the end of a run in a gable, for example, can be turned upside down and used to start the next course. Waste factors are as follows:
3-course=20%,2-course=12%,1-course=5%. You can also mix 1,2 & 3 course panel on the same wall to maximize speed and minimize waste. If you use Shakertown nails(double hot dip galvanized), you wont have any bleeding problems. Please feel free to ask me any questions. Brian

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Brian,

You're uniquely positioned to provide information on a question I had. A local contractor told me that he'd prefer not to use Shakertown because he had problems with water getting behind the panels which he blamed on the alignment ridges. Is there that much difference? Likewise, I'd heard that one is glued to the substrate and one is stapled, but honestly can't remember which. I'm interested in your thoughts.

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Any one have experience with these panelized cedar siding products? I'm planning a re-siding job and need to use a panelized product because the house is sheathed with homosote except for the corners. Any info is greatly appreciated.

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by Brian_Quigley in reply to Anonymous [original] on Sun, 10/14/2001 - 18:25

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Chuck,
I'm slightly biased toward the Shakertown product because I'm one of their sales reps. Shakertown can get the waste factor down as low as 5%if you use their single course panel. The single course panel also has no predetermined top or bottom. The scrap at the end of a run in a gable, for example, can be turned upside down and used to start the next course. Waste factors are as follows:
3-course=20%,2-course=12%,1-course=5%. You can also mix 1,2 & 3 course panel on the same wall to maximize speed and minimize waste. If you use Shakertown nails(double hot dip galvanized), you wont have any bleeding problems. Please feel free to ask me any questions. Brian 

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I know this is from quite some time ago but I'd like to add and correct some of this as the product has changed to 1 course only with option of multi course for rematching purposes. Also Shakertown 8 ft panels are are self aligning with overlocking end joints and blind nailing on on a scribed nailing line, so you will not see any exposed nails unlike Cedar Valley. If your a contractor or if you've installed both products, odds are you will agree with me on the quickness and sharpness of Shakertown over Cedar Valley especially when installing around roof edges and windows as you do not have to nail every shingle on the panel like Cedar Valley.

There was a reason Shakertown decided to go 1 course and that was due to the green movement and the huge waste factors of 2 to 3 courses in the gable areas! Shakertown uses all clear vertical grain western red cedar shingles fully surfaced glued to an exterior grade plywood backer under compression and kiln dried. This product is now known as the Craftsman panel from Shakertown and comes with a tapered 3/8" butt line whcih can come in 7", 4 1/2", or 14" on most mansard type applications. Also Shakertown has Boston Weave corners to match the appearance of the panels for a seamless appearance of individual shingles. If you would like more information on the products please visit www.shakertown.com

Also if you have any questions please keep them coming as  I will try and keep a follow up thanks.