*Have you ever met a guy who guy who really annoys you as much as this walking Sears commercial????
*>Good old bob truly rubs me the wrong way. being a hands on carpenter I hate hearing him say "we did..." when everyone knows his part of the work was barely showing up in time for the shoot and maybe some contracting. I also just watched an old episode of 48hours that showed a "smart house" that bob built that in fact is quite stupid and just plain doesn't work. At the time of the original airing bob was being sued by the houses current owner, who happened to be the actor who played mindy's father in "mork and mindy."
*who thinks Bob Villa is worthless?????Actually I think he is probably worth a ton of money right about now - at least he should be!Does he deserve it is the real question?I get a special kick out of his show when one of the "carpenters" uses 26 ounce framing hammer to nail the trim in place with 2 inch mails; the sign of a true craftsman!
*Scooter you answer about villa has me wondering what is wrong with housewrap
*OK. What about his carpenter Riley? Did any one see the episode where Riley had a fight with a table saw? Guess who won. Then he tried to hide he bandaged hand during the show.FrankN
*WHen Bob picks up any sort of tool or offers to help, I want to yell LOOKOUT!Why do I watch? Techniques used by the real workmen on the show. I also tape and use FF PAST COMMERCIALS and stuff that's of no interest to me. Viewing time: 10-12 minutes.Riley the carpenter doesn't bother me. He looks real.Jerry
*I'm not a contractor and If I were having my home remodeled, I would have a restraining order written up to keep Bob Riley from coming within 500 yards of my house!!!! His work looks very sloppy to me though he does seem like a nice guy and seems to know what he's doing. Tom Silva can work on my house any day. As far as Bob V goes, I recall way back before he left This Old House (because he wanted to do Rickel commercials), he had rubbed some people the wrong way on the Pasadena,CA project. This was a Craftsmen-Style Bungalow. These homeowners hated him. He showed 5 minutes before the taping and left 5 minutes after though he constantly said "we" did this and "we" did that. Apparently, he also talked them into a lot of "might-as-wells" that they thought they would get some donation help with. It's funny to watch the old episodes of that project to see the steam coming off the homeowners as Bob does his thing.
*I find it very interesting that This Old House is doing a project in Key West,FL and the attention it is getting from the local carpenters, I being one.The notion that NORM is in town has elicited responses from "what's that old phoney doing down there" to"I'm going to wear my company T shirt just incase the camera pans on to me"(spoken by a carpenter on the"chosen"house) We all know where the real drama is in our business, and it's in thoses day to day successes and failures when we try to do something nice with wood. Why it has to be mediaized and then talked about by real woodworkers who spend their lives working this medium is curious. I guess it's just plain fun.
*What I can't figure out is why they just don't tear down some of that old crap and start new. Hmmm??
*Has anyone, anywhere, ever seen one of those TV show renos come in on budget?????
*Oh come on, people! If he is so terrible, you wouldn't be watching him. Is it to make you feel "superior"? Well, brother, you missed the boat! You're here, and he ain't; he's at the bank! Bunch of damn whiners!
*How much money did that couple in Calif win in that law suit against Mr I Know It ALL? Big bucks for representing himself as a qualified contractor when in reality he has no qualifications. Without Norm he would have been a one episode wonder.
*The people who own(ed) ? the Pasadena project wrote an article several years ago, about their "disaster".To make a long story short, they blame TOH / Bob V for cracking all thier lath & plaster walls during the process of jacking up the house and installing a new foundation.Apparently the concrete used for the house's grade beams were made with beach sand (high salt content), and were crumbling to dust.Without anyone's intervention, the house would have fallen in upon itself sooner or later.As far as rubbing the Pasadena people the wrong way ? Who knows. Maybe he did. However, the homeowners struck me as the Yuppie type who throw all sorts of money at a project, go on vaction for a few weeks to a month, then come home and tell all the neighbours "Look at what WE did !".The whole episode sounds like someone trying to blame TOH for their poor choice in a home, or lack of reasonable pre-purchase inspection.
*I just hate the way Bob pushes everyone around on the job-site, and how he takes credit for all of the hard work that everyone else does. And coming from Minnesota, I dis-like Riley's accent almost as much as his overalls!
*Well, I guess you could write Judge Starr, and tell him that if he would just indulge in a few sexual perversions in a national shrine, with, oh, say! -- your daughter!! You'd think a whole lot more of him!! Don't start a battle of wits half armed!Buck
*I think that Bob Vila's ancestry is Portuguese. He is a New Englander, and was doing some small scale improvements on his own properties in the Boston area while he was still with PBS. (I remember the local beaureaucrats nailed him for an illegal addition -- making him a man I can admire.) Yes the show is simplistic. So is the average viewer. Most of the posts here drip with both contempt and envy, and you can't have it both ways. I think he makes about $100,000.00 a week. And if his work is sloppy, so be it. You always learn to crawl, then toddle, then walk, then run. Everybody improves as they go along. (Well, most people, any way!) Perhaps the underlying resentment here is that for every DIY, there evaporates dozens of billable hours per year. If you wanted a monopoly, you should have become an M.D.!! Lighten up! He's got his rice bowl, you've got yours.Buck
*I have a lot of issues with Norm Abrams on quality in furniture work, but he is not and never was a "hammer swinging hippy". He was a carpenter when he hooked up with Vila, and he is the son of a life long carpenter. I also admire his work ethic. Lot's of TV shows, lots of books, and lots of appearances.Buck
*Gene It's entertainment, for Gods sake! And thank you for spelling my name correctly: the other dummy didn't.
*Fact is gentlemen, that doing the TV show that BV hosts is anything but simple. Having done a few TV commercials and TV shows myself, there may be a crew of 20 support staff all getting paid and hanging about waiting for the next "take". There is constant pressure to get it in the can before you lose light and then of course, BV has to count on all the "real contractors" to have the right materials at the right time and get the work done within the time frame they have allocated to shoot the show. It ain't easy to do if you only have a couple of "shoot" days budgeted to do it in and did I mention that everybody on the production is getting paid and housed in hotels, etc. Take a look at the "credits" at the end of the show to see how many people it takes to film those simple little programs! As an Executive Producer myself, you gotta kick butts sometimes to keep things moving along. Give BV the benefit of doubt, he's gotta deliver a completed segment to whoever (Sears?) is underwriting the production without spending way too much money on production. It's his job, remember? You may also notice that they try to shoot the shows in such a way as to require minimum editing after the fact. It's an expensive process...that's why movies are so expensive to make. Would you believe it....everybody wants to eat at the show's expense and take breaks too on these productions! Tom Silva gets my vote to work on my house someday...Norm is a real carpenter but little creative flair for furniture and Riley is a hoot!
*Well, if the rest of you are like me, the only reason I end up watching old BV is because there is nothing else on the the ole tube. and there are interesting tours he takes into some of the different manufacturing plants. (but, of course he knows more about the production line than his guide)
*Around here BV's show is only on at 5am sundays and its not worth taping so I have only seen it twice(while taking care of sick kid)I must admidt I watch a lot of the other shows extensivly because I find them very good entertainment.Complete escapism fanatasies.Wouldn't we all love to have customers with endless checkbooks and material and tool suppliers who donated free promotional materials (therby subsidizing our projects?And WHERE does This Old House find their endless supply of rich yuppies with way more money than brains to finance these projects.(I mean on tv these people seem so dumb and yet can afford these projects mean while most of us average IQ types would never pay those prices.)All in all, I can't believe that anyone takes these shows to seriously from a how-to standpoint.To me , they are clearly meant to be fantasy type entertainment.Now if only This Old House would remodel a house for the casts of Baywatch ,Melrose Place,Friends or even Ally McBeal..............
*Brain - he he! My brother used to get so p--- when we'd call him that!! So the old goat still has a show? All I ever see is some stupid re-run of another personal project of his, and then, when I realize who the jerk is in the leather holding the whip over Riley the lackey, I get near panick stricken in my efforts to change the d--- channel. QUICK!! -Genius
*Ever notice how the "pros" get irritated when the old goat (he really ought to shave) tries to interfere with the task at hand. I'm amazed he doesn't have any "accidental" work related injuries.
*I thought Brain would be a compliment. By the by, you seem to be on the wrong web site. Let me take a moment to direct you to the local Sears page (you aren't working there, are you?)
*Again, that Sears home page is:
*Finally! Some one who also thinks Old House has a pre-req for mid-age yuppies with lots of spare time and pockets so deep they can easily drop half a mil on the old dump they want to "fix-up". I would recommend a careful demolition crew- bring down the price of the original structure by having it deemed "un-safe" (our gov. does it all the time!), and then harvest or salvage what hasn't rotted, or been broken or has little or no historical value. Sell all of this to the other yuppies who want 100 - 200 year old technology, and start fresh with a padded budget so you can afford all of those new extras that always seem to find their way in to these shows.Sorry, but I MUST disallow the Ally McBeal effort. There are plenty of available women out there who actually look like women, not skeletons with skin and short skirts. Somebody feed the girl. (Hey Adirondack Jack... where's that pig?)Am I the only one who would be scared to close my eyes on a stormy night in one of these old traps??The insurance rates must go out the roof. Literally.
*Bob is not a Floridian. He is A-N-N-O-Y-I-N-G. Other than that he is a yankee: he yankee everybodys chain!
*Since the shows are so expensive, you'd think a little more effort would be spent on QUALITY? If the producer is dumb enough to feed the crew... well, you can lead a horse to water, and I HOPE you know how the rest goes. Have you EVER met a crew that didn't try to con a free meal out of the g.c.? Heck, my accountant and ins. agent are always trying to get a freebie. I just tell 'em I already fed 'em. Then I point to their check.
*Holy Smokes! I knew it would eventually come to that! So Bob finally drove a NAIL through poor Riley's hand? My, my, my...
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