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What to charge for interior trim work

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I have been asked to bid on trimming a highend ranch style house. I have never bid for this type work before although I have done tons of trim work. I have to set doors, casing, base, crown the whole magilla. How do I charge by the ft. by the room? I will be touring the house on Friday here in southern CT.  Would like the work but don't want to screw myself either

(post #119631, reply #1 of 61)

No one here knows your production rate.  Nor do you know ours.


Is the house being lived in?  Furniture?  Can you set up inside?


During your tour take pictures to refresh your memory when you get home.  If there's prints, take a copy-transfer your notes to it when you price out your time.  Since you've done this work, you know your probable progress-take your time and figure it out.


Best of luck.


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(post #119631, reply #2 of 61)

I do it by the piece. One door, or one window, is a piece. Count the number of windows and doors, and figure out how long it takes you to trim one. Then multiply.


Do you have to set the doors? Allow for that.


Is the trim more than 3 pieces per side? That takes more time, too. Be sure the builder tells you what the trim style will be before you give a price.


With base, I just estimate how long a room will take me. I look for how many closets, and how many corners. But I've been doing this over 30 years. My estimates are getting pretty close now.


Don't forget to ask where you'll be able to set up. If you've got to walk a long ways for every cut, your production will go waaay down.

(post #119631, reply #3 of 61)

Charge by the piece and K.I.S.S.


 


Door hung and trimmed $50


Window Jamb, and Casing $50


Crown per room $50


Baseboard per room $50


Built in cabinet base $50/ft.


Built in cabinet uppers $50/ft.


Cabinet doors and drawers extra.


Closet shelving $15 per shelf


All hardware extra


 


 


"Perfect is the enemy of Good."    Morrison

 

(post #119631, reply #4 of 61)

Crown and base, same price?  That's KITooSS.

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http://www.quittintime.com/

 


(post #119631, reply #5 of 61)

I'll take the base, you take the crown! Deal?

John Svenson, builder,  remodeler,  NE Ohio

John Svenson, builder,  remodeler,  NE Ohio

(post #119631, reply #6 of 61)

I'll take the hundred,


you take the credit.


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(post #119631, reply #9 of 61)

On second thought-why do I hate running baseboard?

"The knees-it's always the knees."

John Svenson, builder,  remodeler,  NE Ohio

John Svenson, builder,  remodeler,  NE Ohio

(post #119631, reply #11 of 61)

I'll take the base, you take the crown! Deal?


I'd take that deal everyday! I hate crawling around on my hands and knees anymore, much easier to stand on a ladder...........at least for me.


Doug

(post #119631, reply #12 of 61)

After 3 days of crown, allow me.

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A Great Place for Information, Comraderie, and a Sucker Punch.

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(post #119631, reply #7 of 61)

Crown and base a room $100.


Whats wrong with that?


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(post #119631, reply #8 of 61)

I'm still waiting to hear if it's lived in.


And nothing wrong with the base-but I think the crown is too cheap.  Maybe it's the remodeler in me.


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A Great Place for Information, Comraderie, and a Sucker Punch.

Remodeling Contractor just outside the Glass City.


http://www.quittintime.com/

 


(post #119631, reply #13 of 61)

To me, base, stool, casing, even hanging doors is a one man job.

But crown, I always make sure I've got a helper. At least for the hanging. Especially if its Rangerboard. That stuff is like trying to hold up a wet noodle.

John Svenson, builder,  remodeler,  NE Ohio

John Svenson, builder,  remodeler,  NE Ohio

(post #119631, reply #15 of 61)

I figure about a 1/2 day for crown in an average room. At my rates, that's $200, without materials.


It does include set-up and take-down, and caulking the crown along the wall and ceiling. I don't putty nails.

(post #119631, reply #18 of 61)

just curious if you don't putty why do you caulk ?

(post #119631, reply #19 of 61)

Mike, I would so I was sure that come the seasonal change I wouldn't get a call about some hairline cracks at the ceiling.  Sometimes that 95cent caulk just don't make up for what I ain't.

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http://www.quittintime.com/

 


(post #119631, reply #22 of 61)

cuz hes prolly a hack :)

(post #119631, reply #35 of 61)

Be carefull keeping your tongue in your cheek like that.

You might bite it off falling down thos stairs over there...

 

 


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(post #119631, reply #24 of 61)

Putty is for painters, they are the ones ultimately responsible for making the nail holes invisible. Painters also caulk as a rule where I work, although some carpenters like to caulk to cover up excessive gaps (not all ceilings and walls are straight) to make the job look better at completion.

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(post #119631, reply #27 of 61)

Especially for paint grade, getting rid of that thin dark line along the ceiling and wall eliminates a lot of questions from the homeowner. And it covers up any minor variations in the walls and ceiling. But mainly the first reason.


And I don't putty largely because a few painters got annoyed with me years ago for filling the nail holes.

(post #119631, reply #23 of 61)

I'll cut, you nail.


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(post #119631, reply #57 of 61)

You caulk yours? Wow...my painters would have screamed at me for doing their work.

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(post #119631, reply #59 of 61)

Thank goodness for superhuman republicans.

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http://www.quittintime.com/

 


(post #119631, reply #28 of 61)

what if the room is 20 by 30 and the crown 10 feet off the floor? I charge linear foot and add for scaffold setup if required.

"it aint the work I mind,
It's the feeling of falling further behind."

Bozini Latini

www.ingrainedwoodworking.com

"it aint the work I mind, It's the feeling of falling further behind." Bozini Latini www.ingrainedwoodworking.com

(post #119631, reply #30 of 61)

That is an answer for Steve in post #1.


What to charge for interior trim work is the name of the thread. I gave a simple price structure to quickly come up with a trim price for the basics on an entire house.


If it is high end there will be extras...cabinets, wall caps, walk in closets, columns, faux beams, Deacon's benches, a pantry, a bar, a wine cellar, a home theater, garage cabinets, stairways, railings, wainscotting, attic hatches, tub enclosures, chair rail, fireplace mantles, bookcases....


And people are jumping on me for pricing $50 a room for crown???


I don't know how high the ceilings are, but if they are 10', fire the 5'-06" helper and hire one who is 6'-08" ;~)


"Perfect is the enemy of Good."    Morrison

 

(post #119631, reply #31 of 61)

Gordsco,

I don't think your prices sound bad, depends on the material. I like to think of trim jobs as being priced by the cut. Therefore $50 gets you a 15'x15' square room for $6.25 a cut. A two piece base would run $100 for the same room. If the room is larger and requires a scarf joint then there are four more cuts and another $25. If a crown needs deadwood then there are cut counts on that too. Of course stain grade costs more than paint grade and different moldings/molding sizes are different costs too.

Just think of it as "how many times do I need to walk to my saw" or better "how many times do I need to be accurate" because a trained monkey can measure,mark,and cut but only a real carpenter can measure, mark, and cut accurately.

gk

(post #119631, reply #10 of 61)

You're hired! I can sit and watch you work, pay you, and still make some cash.


I've got $75 / pre hung for three years and am gonna bring that up soon.


Edited 3/25/2008 9:17 pm ET by MSA1

 

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(post #119631, reply #16 of 61)

I charge more too, $65 per door if I route the hinges. $10 more for pre-hung. Headers $5 per cut piece, plinth blocks $2.50 ea. install latchset $5.


So a pre-hung door with simple return headers and plinths both sides and latch. $120


Do I still get the job?


 


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(post #119631, reply #55 of 61)

lol that's what I was thinking.

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(post #119631, reply #17 of 61)

Will you come work for me? Crown a room-$50?

(post #119631, reply #26 of 61)

Will you come work for me?


Get in line...


(I'm waiting for Steve to hire me for the Ranch)


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