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Hardie plank.Top down?

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Curious here. HAs anyone tried Hardie plank from a top down approach?


I'll be set up for the soffit work and asst. trim painting and repair. While I am up that high, I thought I might could figgure where my courses would fall coming up from the soon to be water table and go ahead and run that upper section.


Then side up to that first upper course, which I have nailed high and slip the lower sections top pc. under and face nail it.


Am I dreaming? I will be adding face nails here and there due to the waves in the wall that won't pack out with 30lb felt.


I can't think of a good reason why I can't do this , but maybe someone has hit this bump in the road before me.


I don't like my pump jacks on this gable, so I probly will be renting scaffold, all of ours from work is tied up pretty solidly for paying customers, so rental center here I come..I just want to not rent twice or set up/ teardown more than needed.


I can't get ALL the materials for everything at the same time ( too much $ at once) and am doing all this pretty much solo.



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(post #101585, reply #1 of 15)

From the top down?


I think you've had your ipod cranked too high for too long!  :-)


In all honesty, I appreciate your dilemma, but I think it would end up being a total PITA.  Be easier to scaffold up twice IMO.


Problem I see is that to blind nail it you have to lift the course above enough to get access with whatever you're nailing with...and F/C doesn't do that very well.


 

(post #101585, reply #2 of 15)

Only ONE course has to be slipped up and in. Just like top down shingling.



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(post #101585, reply #3 of 15)

OK.  I thought you were going from soffit to water table.


It can be done....ask me about the doorbell wires I sided over a couple of years ago!  :-)

(post #101585, reply #4 of 15)

Use spacers under the lower lip of the first course on top, to hold the right angle.  These can be small chunks of siding, tacked in place with a nail below the edge of the piece you're about to install, making them easy to remove.  Pull the spacers out before sliding the lower piece under.


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(post #101585, reply #5 of 15)

I've done exactly what you are describing,  and for the same reason.  I don't recall having any problems at all.   You'll wind up face nailing that one row, but it's so high up it  may not be noticable at all.    Just make dang sure you've got your measurements for where the courses will go- absolutely correct.  This is a perfect application for the ol check, then double check, then have your partner check also, routine.  (not a good time to forget about that 1-1/4" difference between the bottom of the row and the top of the ensuing row)


Good luck!


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(post #101585, reply #6 of 15)

When I resided I used a story pole, and pre-marked an entire side all the way up, striking chalk lines about every 4th course. Made it easy to keep things straight and level and tell how things were going to work out, and I'd imagine it would work well in this situation.


If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy. --James Madison


Of all the preposterous assumptions of humanity over humanity, nothing exceeds most of the criticisms made on the habits of the poor by the well-housed, well-warmed, and well-fed.  --Herman Melville

(post #101585, reply #8 of 15)

Sory pole, AYUP. I thunk that up too. Thanks, sounds like a green light from y'all.


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(post #101585, reply #7 of 15)

Why not do the soffit after you have worked your way up there with the hardie?

(post #101585, reply #9 of 15)

I want to get the corners up all the way, I desparatly need to get the eave fascia and guttering up before the siding, and the soffit as well,being as I am not going at this real fast.


By getting all I can afford to hang and the scaffold out of the way, I can finish all the rest as time and moola allows.


You know its time to get it rolling when the neighbors says " Hey? Ya changed the felt paper didn't ya? Looks great!"



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(post #101585, reply #10 of 15)

Back in the hills, they brush a coat of roof coating on the tar paper once in a while.

(post #101585, reply #11 of 15)

So are you saying you want your nails sent back?


Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks


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(post #101585, reply #12 of 15)

No, why?


We used commons and pop bottle top washers to hold the tar paper on.  Don't need stainless for that.

(post #101585, reply #13 of 15)

As soon as I get outta this chair, I am off to get a cap stapler. I have a day planned from hell.


As I started to pull the old fascia off the eaves, I found the sheathing is shot too...so I am gonna have to rip 16'' strips of new ply and add a subfascia while I am at it, then shingle it all back in, besides the 2000 sq.ft of walls to paper b4 the hardie.


EVERY time I get started, I find a new reason why I need to do something else first..driving me nuts.


Never ever, rebuild a house while you live there. Trust me.


I'll do an hour outside, then a 1/2 hour in the AC, and repeat until Beer Thirty o'clock..might get done by labor day.



Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks


There is no cure for stupid. R. White.

www.richmondrenovationsandrestoration.com  

(post #101585, reply #14 of 15)

Same deal here.  Where to start.  Can't do one thing because something else needs done first, can't do that because of one reason or another. 

(post #101585, reply #15 of 15)

"I'll do an hour outside, then a 1/2 hour in the AC, and repeat until Beer Thirty o'clock..might get done by labor day."


Lol! Sounds familiar to me! Not enough time to keep up with my employees and the jobs i got on the go, then come home and try to complete a major reno on my house.


Screw labor day, shoot for thanksgiving!