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Masonry Product to Seal Wet Shale Basement Wall (post #205647)

glynnbebee on Thu, 01/19/2012 - 16:30
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I'm working on a house with a wet basement and don't know what masonry product and/or waterproofing methods to use.  The house is cut into a shale rock hill and each layer between the sedimentary rock is leaking water.  It is leaking through fast enough to create multiple constant drips all along the wall. 

I'd like to apply a surface veneer of some masonry product but do not know what products work best on such an active water flow.  I imagine some heavily modified (acrylic) product?  Any product names that you can suggest will be appreciated...

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Help me out here....... (post #205647, reply #1 of 7)

by calvin in reply to glynnbebee [original] on Thu, 01/19/2012 - 16:59

The shale hill is part of the foundation?

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Yes, foundation is dug out of a shale formation (post #205647, reply #2 of 7)

by glynnbebee in reply to calvin [original] on Tue, 01/31/2012 - 10:26

Yes, the area around here has rock close to the surface.  It's mainly sedimentary rock.  They dug the back foundation wall into the hill, exposing a few hundred horizontal layers between the rocks, many of which have water draining through.  It's not uncommon since many houses of the time considered internal cisterns to be a plus.


I've had initial success with QuickWall, fortified with the acrylic additive.  It sticks ok to the rock face even though it is so wet and continually draining.  I guess I'm wondering if other specific products exist that do better to stick to and seal a very wet (water trickling through contantly) wall?

 

The only thing that's really (post #205647, reply #3 of 7)

by DanH in reply to glynnbebee [original] on Tue, 01/31/2012 - 18:20

The only thing that's really going to work is to build a drain wall.


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I agree with DanH (post #205647, reply #5 of 7)

by Jigs-n-fixtures in reply to glynnbebee [original] on Tue, 02/07/2012 - 16:23

The only way to stop this is to intercept it before it gets to the basement. 

Would it be possible to install a cutoff trench/french drain uphill from teh foundation to intercept the water and drain it somewhere else?

Support the house above, rent (post #205647, reply #4 of 7)

by Piffin in reply to glynnbebee [original] on Mon, 02/06/2012 - 19:06

Support the house above, rent a jackhammer, and move that face back 16" or so.

 

Provide drainage system to give that ater someplace to go.

Then pour foundation wall

 

 


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In underpinning applications (post #205647, reply #6 of 7)

by bluegoat in reply to Piffin [original] on Tue, 02/28/2012 - 14:45

In underpinning applications where the joint b/t the old and new isn't great I've used drainage board that allows the water to drain down to interior perimeter drains.  Then just build the 2x wall offset from the drainage board.

I think there was either a JLC or FHB article about an old mill that had a basement in a hill that had water constantly running down the hillside wall they did something similar and had the water run under the floor and out the other side.

Hydralic cement is what is typically used in wet wall situations.  I am not sure if that would work well for you or not. 

http://www.sanitred.com/    (post #205647, reply #7 of 7)

by niwroc in reply to glynnbebee [original] on Wed, 03/07/2012 - 17:06

http://www.sanitred.com/    My friend used this on a laid rock foundation and it stopped all flow. Don't make the mistake he did and start at the top like he did. Start at the bottom. Floor first then wall to floor joints then up the wall from bottom. He has forced all the water to the floor seam and is having a hard time stopping that flow. To much hydraulic  pressure. The stuff will stop seapage. He put a torpedo heater to the area he was doing then coated it. Worked excellent.