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I have a question for all of you builders out there. The condo that my Mother is renting in CT, the owner, had a new sliding glass doors recently installed. When I visited her this past summer I saw that they had the sliding door was on the outside and the stationary door was on the inside. Seems to me that all of the doors that I saw, you could put a bar on the flood of the frame a block anyone trying to open the door from the outside.


She had one of the installers back in and he said that was the way they are installing them now. Seems to me that if they got a good ice storm she would not be able to open the slider because the ice would be in the track, on the other side of the heated space.


Anyone else heard of this way to install sliders?


Greg


 

(post #107530, reply #1 of 14)

I think they were drunk


Have a good day


Cliffy

(post #107530, reply #2 of 14)

Pella's are on the exterior.  They have an add-on lock that you can put on the bottom inside to keep it from opening.

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(post #107530, reply #4 of 14)

Thanx; I'll remember not to spec Pellas for the house I'm designing this winter.


Gawd, what a dumb idea.



Dinosaur


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foolish men call Justice....


Dinosaur

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low by this? For thine evil pales before that which
foolish men call Justice....

(post #107530, reply #5 of 14)

Is this the one you are talking about?


http://web.pella.com/products/doors/PLslidingpatio/Pages/detailpage.aspx


Other ones look like the are inside.


I agree with Dinosaur, but wonder why they designed one like that.

(post #107530, reply #6 of 14)

Yes, also the Designer and Architect series.  I see they have some other lines-of those not sure.


In your picture and some here you can see the added lock on the bottom corner of the door (opposite the handle side).


Pella door lines


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http://www.quittintime.com/

 


(post #107530, reply #7 of 14)

When I ordered my WinDoor (####-XXXP) sliders the "stack" was an option you specify. I spec'ed them with the first mover on the inside of the stack but they call that "reverse".

Greg

(post #107530, reply #8 of 14)

I haven't delt with Pella in over 25 years, so I was surprized when Calvin said they had one with the slider outside.

(post #107530, reply #9 of 14)

As explained to me the exterior slider gives greater energy efficiency and wind resistance ie. hurricane force.


Stands to reason that the harder the wind blows the greater the force against the weatherstripping.


I have installed several for fussy/nuisance clients and had not a peep out of them regarding the typical sliding door drafts.

(post #107530, reply #10 of 14)

Wind resistant doors actually hook into each other, it is not just weather strip. I am not sure about doors without a wind rating.

Greg

(post #107530, reply #11 of 14)

Vaguely seems to me that there is some sort of interlock. Would have to have a look.


I will say that they are good quality and would certainly recommend them.

(post #107530, reply #12 of 14)

I have never seen a slider configured that way. We do not sell Pella so maybe that is just unique to them? We sell and install Simonton and Don Young windows in Texas, including coastal wind zone (Hurricane). All of them are the way you would expect stationary on the outside, slider on the inside. I have owned 6 homes with sliders...all the same. AllTexBob www.alltexexteriors.com

(post #107530, reply #3 of 14)

Wait till summer and Mom goes to shut the slider with an interior screen covered with bugs.

Sliding glass doors (post #107530, reply #13 of 14)

It seems like the company installing the ysliding door at your mother's house overlooked something. It's impossible to have the doors installed that way, especially, in the location your mother lives in. Have you solved the problem already? Has it repeated or not? I've just contacted my friend, who is working in the reputable (spam link removed and this poster doesn't know what she's talking about) Having read your post, I was justed curious to find out how the glass sliding doors should be installed properly as I'm going to install the one at my house soon. She told that these doors are never installed the way you've descirbed. Hopefully, you've figured that out already, but I wish other users to know that as well. 

Ah martha! I knew you were (post #107530, reply #14 of 14)

Ah martha! I knew you were going to be a spammer! 

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