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I'm a new home builder and was talking to my contractor about interior paint. I said I wanted Behr because I had read it was a good brand of paint but he, with absoloutely no reservarions whatsoever, told me how he wasn't impressed with the Home Depot brand.  But then he gave me several reasons why he highly and enthusiastically recommended Sherwin Williams. What has me totaly flummoxed, though, is that Consumer Reports rates Sherwin Wms dead last in almost every category they rate paint in.  Is Consumer Reports a couple short of a six-pack here or is my contractor looking at different issues than CR does? Does anyone out there have any pros or cons about Sherwin Wms? How about Behr and other brands? Any inputs most appreciated. Thanks in advance.

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I just had our house painted with 34 Gallons of ICI Fortis. Similar to duration but only $26.00 per Gallon. 34 Gallons was a lot of paint for a red brick Bungalow.


I only use Porter or ICI. BM's high cost is due to marketing.


Chuck S


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(post #77755, reply #2 of 100)

I use Behr only when the customer insists upon it.  Ben Moore is my choice above all others.  I never read the consumer reports, but someone told me it is rated #2 behind Behr.  How Behr can be rated number one is way beyond my comprehension.  I think the stuff is gargabe.....IMHO


Brian.....Bayview Renovations


 

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Benjamin Moore, hands down.  I concur with everyone else so far who is astonished that Behr gets anything above a "total garbage" rating from anyone.  I wonder if it has anything to do with the amount of advertising by Home Depot in CR?


Can't speak for Sherwin Williams, never used it myself.

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"I wonder if it has anything to do with the amount of advertising by Home Depot in CR?"

Consumer Reports doesn't accept advertising from anyone, and sues companies that use their CR ratings for marketing purposes.

Rebeccah

(post #77755, reply #8 of 100)

1.  C2 ......goes on like silk.  (It's a bit pricy - it's from France)


2.  Benjamin Moore  ....a close second.


3.  All the rest.

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I just painted two rooms with the Behr from home depot at my house. I used thier primer first and then one coat . I tinted the primer and my coat was eggshell in sheen. I covered up dark red with light brown. I like it. I feel its as good as any Ive used. I have used Benjamin Moore and Sherwin Williams and even Richards Paint. To me they all seem to be the same. Maybe I aint as picky but my customers dont complain either.

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(post #77755, reply #35 of 100)

Consumer Reports has NO, as in zero, advertising...they are funded entirely by subscription, & that's why they are regarded as the most objective rating outfit.


I don't  always agree with their ratings of certain items, but overall, you can trust them...

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When I saw that, I thought it was wrong too. I think they factor in price too much with their ratings. I use their information and ratings as another source but certainly not the be all of opinions.

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Muralo...painter just finished a foyer, stair well, hallway, 2 bedrooms, and bath using muralo and the coverage was excellent. old plaster walls with many "character" marks, if you know what i mean, and they are well hidden now. color is rich...i am pleased.

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--- I think they factor in price too much with their ratings. ---

I'll have to check to see if they're still doing that. A year or two ago they changed their magazine layout and also their ratings system, to where it factored in cost. But they got a lot of complaints from readers, since the price/quality tradeoff really is an individual judgment. I thought they switched back, but maybe not.

Rebeccah

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I tried BM's new paint. Its called "Aura" and its very expensive at about fifty bucks a gallon but I didn't need more than a gallon so I figured I'd try it.


Let me keep it simple...IT's GREAT!!!! One coat did the job for me. If you need two it can be recoated in an hour. Over dark colors they say two coats will absolutly do it and I believe it.


The color is deep and beautiful. I'd absolutly use it again and let my customers know now that I only use the world's best paint.


If you're looking to spend less money ...about $30 a gallon I have to admit I really did like the Ralph Laren from HD. I was sceptical but I do have to say it covers really nice if you're more budget conscious.


Beher I don't care for at all. A lot of it goes on like water especially the white/light colors. The darker colors are marginally better but for just a little more money you can get the RL or if you REALLY care then try BM's AURA!!!


edit: oh yeh...its said that you don't need primer with Aura but I ain't swearing to anything. Check it out yourself...I painted over old paint.



 


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Edited 5/17/2007 8:53 pm ET by andybuildz


Edited 5/17/2007 9:01 pm ET by andybuildz

(post #77755, reply #14 of 100)

Since you mentioned the Aura paint, I figured I'd post a link to my previous comments about it:


http://forums.taunton.com/tp-breaktime/messages?msg=88164.1


And, BTW, I agree with what you said about it.  I'll also add that it's the most washable paint, by far, that I've every used.


-Don

(post #77755, reply #15 of 100)

And, BTW, I agree with what you said about it. I'll also add that it's the most washable paint, by far, that I've every used.<<<<

After I used it all I could think was.."this is the paint of the future"...REALLY! It had that much of an impact on me. And I couldn't believe that it worked so well with just one coat.
The color is so different to me. Seems much richer and you're right about the washability of it cuz I'm still working in that room and I keep getting the walls dirty...washes right up with no ill effect whatsoever.
I "almost" want another room to paint now...lol


 


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(post #77755, reply #27 of 100)

Read about it a while back.  It's fomulated differently than other paints.  I don't think it's available everywhere yet.

 

 

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I don't think it's available everywhere yet.<<<

Its available everywhere by me that carries BM. I'm on LI in NY.
You can have it shipped for $10 a gallon but thats a bit over the top I think. Expensive enough as it is..at $50-55 a gallon.


 


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(post #77755, reply #5 of 100)

  I've used Behr a lot and like it.


  I've used Sherwin Williams some and like it and am especially impressed with their reds. The reds cover better than anything else I have ever used.


  I like Devoe (or whatever it's called this week).


  I've used Benjamin Moore some and like it a lot but don't like its limited availability.


  I've used Glidden and won't consider it unless the customer insists and then add a 'rider' to the contract that I can bill extra for delays and extra cleanup.


Blake

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(post #77755, reply #12 of 100)

BenMoore is the most commonly used and widely available in my area.

I agree that a customer specing Behr or Glidden should be preparred to pay for the labour of an extra ooat or two of paint to cover

 

 


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Is California brand paint available up there? I'm outside boston and their operations are in Andover MA (next door to Lowell/Lawrence area). I believe it is available east of the mississippi only. It is also a very good paint, basically the same as BM but a few dollars less. A few pro's around here use Sherwin williams but almost all use california and BM interchangeably. For exterior the really like the california better.

http://www.californiapaints.com/

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Yes, I can get California. Haven't seen it used yet myself.

I can also get C2 but not exactly local. I have to drive down to Kennebunkport to get it.

 

 


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(post #77755, reply #25 of 100)

Devoe is good.

But only after you whip it

whip good

I don't Know what I am doing


But


I am VERY good at it!!

. .

(post #77755, reply #28 of 100)

Crack that whip. whip it good!  LOL

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I find Behr to be watery and not very good at covering with anything less than 2 coats (sometimes more depending on the color and what you're going over). For the few $$ gallon difference it's worth buying a 'heavier' paint.


I use Sherwin Williams alot, a store is nearby and their better paints cover very well, but you'll be spending $30+/gallon. Duration is close to $50 but I did a house (exterior) with one coat and it's held up beautifully.


Like another poster, I also like the Ralph Lauren at HD. Did an interior post and beam with a deep barn red on all the exposed wood and it was nice to work with; covered well and easy to clean up.


-Norm


 


 

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Ben Moore is the best paint I've ever used. I can't get it locally anymore since the store that carried it closed (the manager retired and by the time they got a competent manager someone else opened up an MAB paint store and managed with excellence!).

Since Ben Moore is no longer available, I've used several other paints. Sherwin Williams comes close. Behr, Sears, MAB, Ace Hardware, Olympic, and others (I'm sure) do not come close.

I can't wait til next year when we move and Ben Moore will be more available locally again!

Oh yes, the one time I actually painted an entire house exterior (with Ben Moore), the customer called back after a few years (just maybe four years, clearly they've had poor experience with paint jobs in the past!) and complained that the paint still looked good. They were tired of the color, but the condition of the paint wouldn't allow them to justify repainting.

Rich Beckman

Next year, "locally" might include driving as far as Ben Moore is from me now, but it is somehow different if it's all in the same town as opposed to the next county seat over. LOL!

(post #77755, reply #23 of 100)

You might check back w/ Ace Hardware...in my neck of the woods, they're carrying Benjamin Moore paint now.  Nice looking stuff.


Jason

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"You might check back w/ Ace Hardware...in my neck of the woods, they're carrying Benjamin Moore paint now."

I'm in the local Ace Hardware store all the time so I am sure they do not carry Ben Moore.

I will mention your post to them. Maybe it is an opportunity they are missing.

Rich Beckman

You are here.

(post #77755, reply #42 of 100)

I can get BM here in CT in the few Ace hardware stores nearby.  The selection depends on the store, but they can get anything special ordered.


Hope this helps. Rich.

Hope this helps.  Rich

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  There are two Ace hdwrs near me. One carries BM, the other P&L.  When I asked why no BM at the second Ace they said BM only allows X number of retail outlets in one area.


  Even though it was another Ace, they wouldn't sell to the second one...buic


 

(post #77755, reply #79 of 100)

"One carries BM"

How bit of an Ace Hardware store is it.

I mentioned this to the owner of the local Ace and she asked if I knew if it was a "corner hardware" like hers or if it was one of the really big supermarket size Ace hardwares.

Rich Beckman

You are here.

(post #77755, reply #85 of 100)

  One Ace location is big (with BM paints), the other even bigger (with the P&L).  


   There used to be a local home center called "Pergaments" here.  Ace took over many of their locations when they folded...buic

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You hsve to get it at Aboffs


 


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