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Steel toe = cold toes?

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I hear this topic kicked around on jobsites all the time and it never seems to be decided.  So I'm wondering what you guys think.  I'm sitting here looking over the Gemplers catalog getting ready to order a bunch of winter clothes and what-not.  I see some boots I like too, but they are steel toe.


Do steel toes boots really make your toes colder during the winter?  I can see arguments both ways so I really don't know the answer.  We're talking about an uninsulated boot in a New England winter.  I prefer to rely on sock choices for insulation because I can adjust it according to the weather and it's one less layer to try to dry out of the boot at night.


What say you all?

(post #68960, reply #1 of 61)

Wore em for years and years andnever had them make my toes cold.


Side note: Did you watch myth busters the other night when they were trying to bust the myth about steel toe boots cutting your toes off?


            

 

   

(post #68960, reply #4 of 61)

Naw, didn't see that one.  What'd they come up with?

(post #68960, reply #16 of 61)

I caught that episode of mythbusters - pretty convincing experiments.
I agree with you too, I wear steel toe boots always (even in northern Alberta where it gets real cold). Never had a problem, and the steel saved my toes on more than one occaison.

(post #68960, reply #2 of 61)

I don't think steel toes make yer feet any colder but i haven't worn them for awhile as a lot of boot makers now offer a composite toe thats a lot lighter. I just got some new CAT boots that are as light as sneakers but they still have toe protection and a sole plate.

cheers

Rik

(post #68960, reply #3 of 61)

I've never used a steel toe boot before but I've thought about it being cold also. I heard flip flops are good in the winter also using a spray on sock.....;-)

Joe Carola


Edited 11/13/2005 10:44 am ET by Framer

Joe Carola

(post #68960, reply #5 of 61)

There are some Nonmetal "hard toes" now..I have a pair of Herman Survivers that have a fiber/plastic toe..


But I digress, I never had a cold toe problem BECAUSE of steel toes, it was just so damm cold, no matter what..you'd have cold toes!


Roofing now, OSHA doesn't require us to be steel clad, but I am guessing YOU do need either steel ot the hard plastic to conform..esp. witha boomer onsite..they can run over toes right quick.


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(post #68960, reply #6 of 61)

Honestly dude, I don't think I've owned a pair of steel toe boots in a couple years.  I do think we are supposed to have them per OSHA.  I buy boots that fit good and look good.... I don't really care if they have marshmallow toes... if I like 'em, I'm buying 'em.  I found a pair of the new Carhartt boots that I like and they're steel toe.  I think I'll probably buy them and if I find that they're cold I'll just save 'em for the spring or something.

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Last week I scored a pair of Wolverines, and like you said, look good..feel good SOLD!!


The first thing I noticed was weight..man they are light ( no steel) and second thing was, I USE my foot as a lever or a lifter some times..I had 2 2'x10' copper pans to send up the scaffold ( nested, about 40 lbs)...I USED to set them on my toes while I regripped for the shove up...um, not no more..LOL


I coulda cut off a toe..Grant works in his shop in sandals..brave man I tell ya.


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(post #68960, reply #12 of 61)

Re: Working in the shop in sandals, that is not brave, it is stupid. How bad can wearing protective shoes or boots be? I always wear my steel toes

(post #68960, reply #13 of 61)

Being as you know neither the man or his shop and what he does, calling it stupid is pretty stupid in it self.

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(post #68960, reply #8 of 61)

Being a clutz prone to dropping things... like oily engine blocks or transmissions... I usually keep a pair of steel toes somethings (shoes or boots) around when I am working in the shop.  When I lived in the midwest (Chicago area), uninsulated steel toed boots and shoes were colder than just about anything else I could wear.  I was also standing on bare concrete most of the time.

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(post #68960, reply #9 of 61)

They can contribute. I've never thought it was a great deal until I spent a few years in Montana and got to see what real cold was all about. Maybe obvious, matters more the colder it gets.


Someone mentioned the variant of the non metal safety toe. I've got a couple pair of Danners that have a ceramic toe like that. Awesome winter boot. If I have to work outside when its snowing I grab them.



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(post #68960, reply #10 of 61)

  Those Danners are very good boots. I've owned a couple of pair. The best boot I've ever had(still have) are Matterhorns. I keep them put up now cause they would be a waste for what I do most of the time. Most expensive boots I've ever bought but the internal metatarsol guard saved me from a trencher rolling over my foot once. So they paid for themselves in one day.


The only difference in mine and the one in the link is mine doesn't have that "tiger toe" thing sticking out.


http://www.shoestoboot.com/moreinfo.cfm?Product_ID=715&Category=162


            

 

   

(post #68960, reply #14 of 61)

That's odd, and maybe the world is just full of funky shaped paws. I absolutely can't stand the way Matterhorns feel on me. But there's lots who swear by 'em. I kind of have flippers more than feet anyway. But I agree, the Danners are well made, and oh are they spendy. I got lucky as heck, bought one set, got the second free. Wooooooo! Man do I find the bargains or what.

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(post #68960, reply #24 of 61)

2 for 1?  That's a once in a life time. Now that you brought up Danners you have me looking again. Have you seen these puppies?


http://www.danner.com/products.asp?catid=11&prodid=2238


            

 

   

(post #68960, reply #32 of 61)

Danners... 220 clams??? Waaay toooo rich for my blood...

Matt

(post #68960, reply #34 of 61)

   Two things I never go cheap on is footwear and firearms. If my feet are happy then that's all I need to justify them. And they will outlast most other boots because of the material used. That alone justifies the price. I make my living on my feet, I don't want them miserable.

            

 

   

(post #68960, reply #35 of 61)

With all that bogus money your printing, price shouldn't even be a issue, just pay cash oh and don't forget to wear the dread locks when you do it.

(post #68960, reply #36 of 61)

ROAR!  You know me well.

            

 

   

(post #68960, reply #37 of 61)

naw, but they look good. Actually, it was these forums where everyone and their dog loves Redwings that got me to try a pair of them. Man. The Danners are a great winter boot but for everyday, you couldn't peel those Redwings from me. It's like a second skin . . . with a steel shank and steel toe ;-)

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(post #68960, reply #38 of 61)

  I just picked up a new pair of Redwings 468's I love em. I'm weird about this stuff I'll go forever and not buy any, then buy two or three pairs within a month. Drives the wife nuts. But I wear em so that's the important part. I haven't worn steel toes in awhile not because I don't want to just because I haven't found a style I like that has them. But those Danners look tempting. Might have to make them an early Christmas present to myself.

            

 

   

(post #68960, reply #21 of 61)

I agree that Matterhorn is a great boot.  When I was in the Marine Corps with an ECW (extreme cold weather) unit, I had a pair of Danner's that were identical to those Matterhorns except that they had some Gore-Tex side panels instead of all leather.  Great boots, I went through three sets of Vibram soles on those uppers before finally retiring them after wearing the toes out during construction years later.


That's probably where I should be looking for some winter work boots.  Thanks for the reminder.

(post #68960, reply #11 of 61)

Steel toed boots made my toes much colder.

I have a problem with cold feet anyway, so I noticed the difference big time.

Worst when you are on cold concrete all day, for some reason.

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(post #68960, reply #15 of 61)

Steel toes do make my toes noticeably colder.


Try good woolen hiking socks.

(post #68960, reply #17 of 61)

Hadn't noticed that steel toes make my feet colder.

I'm in Florida now but used to work farther north. I can say that there is a small trick which seems to make any boots warmer. Between pairs of socks, always pays to wear liner and outer in cold weather, slip a plastic sandwich bag over your toes. The bag shouldn't be too big or be pulled up too far. Just cover the toes and maybe an inch or so of the instep.

Seems to make for warmer feet without causing too much sweating or overheating. Cheap, the bags can be reused many times, and IMHO fairly effective.

(post #68960, reply #18 of 61)

One other thing I noticed with cold toes... if your feet start off a little cold, they will get ALOT cold.  It's always helped to get my feet warm before putting on the boots.  I think it just helps keep the circulation up enough to maintain warmth. 

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(post #68960, reply #19 of 61)

Along those lines, sometimes I throw my sox in the dryer for about 4 minutes just prior to putting them and my shoes on and leaving the house for work.


Here is a q for the general public:


Do waterproof boots make your feet get hot and sweat?

Matt

(post #68960, reply #20 of 61)

Man I gotta disagree with some of you guys and your methods to keep your feet warm... big time.  I must have wacky feet or something.


4LORN1's plastic bags would have me with sweaty cold feet in a matter of minutes.  Same goes with socks fresh out of the dryer.... my feet would get hot and sweaty and then cool down outside and leave me with wet cold feet again.


I like wool or polypropylene socks in the winter because they wick the water off your feet and won't hold on to it.  That's why I don't like insulated boots much, the insulation stays damp and actually makes my feet colder if it doesn't dry out all the way at night.  Gore-tex as a waterproofer is a must though.  Gore-tex is a must for me because it doesn't allow water in, but lets water vapor escape.  But sometimes I find that even my $50 Sealskin socks can't keep up at times and I still end up with cold feet from sweat cooling down.


On winter mornings, I try to keep my feet cool and dry from the time I put my socks on until I get out of the truck.  Cool (not cold) feet = dry feet = happy feet for me.  Using the floor heat in the truck is a big no-no for me on the ride to work too.  If my feet are dry, with moderate insulation, they'll stay comfortable all day long.


My problem arises when I'm working hard up on the deck and my feet are actually sweating.  Then I go stand on frozen ground at a set of horses for an hour and I'm just doomed if I'm not wearing a system that's pulling that water away from my feet.j


So to answer you question about water proof boots making my feet sweat... well, it depends.  An all leather boot that is waterproof is bad news for me.... I'll sweat in it and freeze... might as well be leaking.  But a Gore-tex and leather boot works well because the water vapor from sweat can escape and the muddy puddles and what not stay out.

(post #68960, reply #22 of 61)

buy your boots ####size bigger.

2+3=7

(post #68960, reply #23 of 61)

The bags only cover the toes.