Wanna move ! Where to go as a builder!
Three issues.
1- Great school district
2- would work for me as a builder/ renovations
3- Tennis for my wife….a serious issue for her!
4- Incredably gorgous area
OK so with that …..I looked into drop dead gorgous areas of this wonderful country, My 26 year old daughter lives in San Francisco. I want a bit more remote then major cities. Presently I live about 45 minutes from Manhatten in a beautiful area of Cold Spring HArbor Long Island NY. Former home twn to Billy Joel, John and Yoko, HAryy Chappin…….etc etc…….point being.its beautiful but realy expensive for me….taxes are $14000 a year…etc etc etc…….Built my crib and will $$$$$ do well but I can’t afford whats on the market here…..Schools are most important,,,,,private or evenpublic……dont need to stay here. At 51 with a whole lotta energy and experiance I’ll go anywhere. The criterior is….schools….drop dead gorgous and Tennis for my wife…..Looked at Mendocino but tennis is 2 hours away……GOOD tennis…..shes so into that and thats that…….so where to go….Mendo needs carpenter/ builders…is kinda remote yet gorgous…..I think I’d way dig living there…..Gonna do a romp the end of August. Drop my 12 year old off with my 26 year old in SanFrancisco and cruise the coast……..
THE QUESTION!: For a building kinda guy…….that wants what I expressed….with SERIOUS tennis…….any suggestions?
Be Well
Namaste’
Andy
It’s not who’s right, it’s who’s left ~ http://CLIFFORDRENOVATIONS.COM
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Have you considered SE NE (Eastern conn, RI, SE Mass) Number of folks could tell you about business opertunities, schools are good in the right community (lots of communities) tennis? well Hall of fame is in Newport, RI
bobl Volo Non Voleo Joe's cheat sheet
Somebody here ought to be glad to tell you where to go.
Some of them are pretty good at it...............(-:
Andy,
Go west young man go west...... Darkworksite4: When the job is to small for everyone else, Its just about right for me"
Andy-
Hi, bro. I'm in Olympia, Washington, about 70 miles south of Seattle and I think about 120 miles north of Portland, Oregon. Used to live in Seattle, but for my taste the living is too hectic and too much traffic. Oly is the state capital, also somewhat of a college town with Evergreen State College and Saint Martin's College, lotsa art in this town, alternative life styles, pretty stable economy with the state government. Lots of new building and also the remodelers keep pretty busy. In twenty minutes I'm out of town and in the Capital State Forest enjoying 300 miles of mountain bike trails. I love it here. Multitudes of older homes available under 150k. The cost of living is inexpensive compared to where you are now, SF, Mendocino, and lots of other crazy Calif. locales.
Yo, Andy. Get yourself out west and check it out. Of course I'm biased to the Western Wash. area, but Oregon and N. Calif. are great, too. Luka, Pro-Dek, Jim Blodgett, Art B., Sam C., and others all live in this area.
Oh, yeah. Above average school system, some really great private schools (myself, went to The Lakeside School in Seattle), and here in Olympia there's The Valley Athletic Club for year-round tennis.
And Peace to you,
Ken Hill
Ken,
Gonna do a week or better the end of Aug. out west and start in S.F (where my 27 year old daughter lives) and work my way north. Sonoma Cnty is a possiblity. I want Mtns! I need to find some land within a monied community so I can "make money". (right Lisa) Find my niche.I know..its a catch 22....Live in a money area and ya gotta pay the big bucks. I should have about seven hundred thou in my pocket when I sell this house so....after looking on line at Mendocino it seems even in that remote area 700000 doesnt do a whole hell of a lot. I just might make it up to Wash...Who knows....its kinda on my list...Whats the weather like? Mendo is actually kinda cold. between 40 and 55 year round. Spose its because its on the coast and high up on those gorgious bluffs.Foggy too I hear. No tennis though.bummer! Lookin to get back into the mtns and woods...jumpstart my reno biz there (where ever) and raise me a cpl a dozen chickens and get my organic veggie garden back...actually.....you all are gonna crack up on this hippie thought....lol..raise "Alpaca"and I cant even spell it right....lol. I hear one Alpaca goes for about thirty grand.....I hear they started raising them in Colorado cause the climates right. You can make good money .reallyyyyyy good money with their wool. Dumb huh..well, my wife says I'm a dreamer but heck......look at my website.....I did that just about alone. All 4000 sq ft so.........skys the limit IMHO..Life is wayyyyy to short and I have things to do and places to go so I hope I meet all you all when I get there and..thats funny...."quakefest" LOLLLLLLL..Thats a done deal and I'm bettin on me and my family hosting it!
Be Well
Namaste'
AndyIt's not who's right, it's who's left ~ http://CLIFFORDRENOVATIONS.COM
Load up your family and come to Fayettville Arkansas. Nature at its best. Mountains, goverment mountain land,home of the razorbacks,tennis is very serious, building boom for the last fifteen years, exellent schools, and the biggest plus ; drop dead gorgeous. A short drive to branson mo. Did I mention they turned out the lights in Nashville? Fishing and hunting galore. Four wheeler country. Look it up. The richest place in Arkansas.
Regards
Tim Mooney
Ken my brother Ill be there visiting this summer mainly on the kitsap pennesula; bremerton,port orchard area. Ill be retireing up there in approximately 6 years 3 months and 2 weeks but whose counting :) Darkworksite4: When the job is to small for everyone else, Its just about right for me"
Try the Washington state/Oregon state area. Very beautiful and affordable if you stay clear of the very beautiful Seattle area.
When you're visiting California, be sure to investigate Marin County and the Wine Country area. I think they have a lot of what you're looking for: drop dead gorgeous, great schools available (California's public schools in general are not rated highly, but in these areas they are great and there are lots of private school choices as well), monied environments where you could do well in your business, and tennis galore.
Here's one link: http://www.tennisinmarin.com/ There is also a lot of very serious tennis in the Bay Area, which would be 30 mins. to an hour away. When we lived in the Bay Area I had a friend who was an "A" ranked player and used to go to her tournaments. Those folks take their tennis very seriously.
Housing is expensive, but compared with what you're used to I think you could do well in that regard in Marin or Sonoma County. Santa Barbara and Carmel/Monterey would answer your needs as well, but housing in both places is sky high - prices go up as you near the beach.
Plus, if we get more Breaktime people in California, maybe we can get a "Quakefest" together one day....
"A completed home is a listed home."
Are you limited to the US ? (Ireland, Spain, Portugal, Mexico, Canada) Within the US, have you looked at USVI, US Samoa, and Hawaii ?
Phill Giles
The Unionville Woodwright
Unionville, Ontario
Andy --
For a building business climate, check out the "Tornado vs Earthquake" thread in the Tavern. The right answer may be next door to Frenchy's place.
-- J.S.
No earthquakes or tornados in southwest Virginia.
And I emphasize "southwest".
Not northern Virginia - about as bad as being in L.A.
Not West Virginia.
And not all the way southwest in Virginia - you're entering coal mining region.
Check out the New River Valley, in particular Blacksburg.
I think most small towns with a major university is a good bet.
Blacksburg is one of them, being the home to Virginia Tech, the largest university in Virginia.
Plenty of tennis courts, great elementary schools with good international mix (with ENGLISH as the ONLY official teaching language.)
Ahn,
Yearsssssssss back I lived in Lovingston Virginia. Btwn Lynchburg and Charlottesville... Foothill country as well as "shine" country. I loved it...for a couple of years then it started getting to me. The south kinda wasnt in my bones but thanks...it is beautiful country.
Be well,
Namaste'
AndyIt's not who's right, it's who's left ~ http://CLIFFORDRENOVATIONS.COM
re - The south kinda wasnt in my bones but thanks...it is beautiful country.
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Hi, Andy -
Believe me, I know here you're coming from.
Being in a university town helps alleviate some of the regional stereotypes.
And this is about as far as I care to go south.
And eastern and northern Virginia nobody could pay me to live there.
(Charlottesville area would be an exception.)
Good luck on your search,
Alan
hey andy- bailing from our georgeous "lawng island" are ya. man i cant blame you an iota. i loathe this place. i'm originally from new england specifically rhode island and every time i go to visit 12 times a year that place just seems to beckon me. when we travel down 25a just the diffrence from "76" for random date to now . is more stressful than a 12 hour day, any how the top three on my list is bristol county, rhode island just for my outdoor stuff i do hunting ,fishing,( but being a buddist that doesnt interest you)and diving. that and it's damn picturesque. #2 is charleston south carolina, i would venture to guess restoration out the "wazoo", and i got the ocean and country to the west that and the climate.#3 the northwest puget sound down to coos bay drove the west coast back in 1986 on motorcycles in the month of june. i feel in love with the place and again the ocean is readily available, but i would have to unload the "new yawk "attitude, and our sense of humors. which i found didnt acclimate very well. but i do feel new yorkers do get a really bum wrap through out the rest of the country. but that is a completely diffrent thread. remember change is imperitive to growth . and its not the destination of our lives but the journey so ends the hallmark portion of the message, cheers staywell the bear
Bear-
Old joke: Happiness is seeing a Californian leaving Washington with a New Yorker under each arm.
Ken Hill
hardeeee har har ................. ralph cramden bravo bear
Bear,
Yer from Lawg Island tooooo????? Geez....who'd a thought? Give me a ring....check out my web site for my phone #. Also.....lookin to get my bike goin'. A Yammie Virago 1100 Special. Totally chromed out with saddle bags and rarin' to go. All it needs is me! Some free time. ugh! Probably the best thang for me to do is get that sucka goin' around the country and check out from here to there and everywhere inbetween again as I did in the 60's. Free wheelin'! HAve a feelin' its gonna be out west though. At 51 I think I need a change. Its more important to oil them gears and get different perspectives and not be afraid of change. as a matter of fact I think EVERYONE should get up and switch places..Kinda musical chairs.
As far as Buddhism.....doncha read the end of most all my letters?????
Namaste'...... Doing another week this year up at The Omega Insuitude of Holistic Studies with Ram Dass and Krishna Dass......Check out the link my brother http://WWW.EOMEGA.ORG Spent two weeks there last summer. A week with Tenzin Rinpoche learning The Bon Tradition which predates Buddhism by thousands of years and a week with Ram Dass and friends......Totally awesome. One of the best weeks in my life. Maybe you'd like to join me and my friend Bruce..(a misnister that runs a Fidel school (Rudolf Steiner) up in the Hudson Valley NY. People come from all over the country to attend this week with Ram Dass. Its a total gas
BE well
Namsate'
Andy
It's not who's right, it's who's left ~ http://CLIFFORDRENOVATIONS.COM
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Andy-
Do remember Richard Alpert and then Ram Dass. Doesn't he have a new book Be Here Again, or something like that. Recall he also spent time in Kona (my old stompin' grounds)..........Always good to hear of us old hippie-types who have not forgotten or forsaken some of the best things that came to light in those days.
Peace, Ken Hill
Ken..Right...C'mon out to Omega in Sept and spend the week with The Ram Man and me....Last year was a TOTAL gas! Go to http://WWW.EOMEGA.ORG.
Tried to post an attachment of Ram Dass and me...hope it came through
BE well
Namaste'
Andy
PS Glad to know theres other old hippies out there...It's not who's right, it's who's left ~ http://CLIFFORDRENOVATIONS.COM
One last thing. Having a big party here at this house I finally finished. The first Sunday of next month.June 2. Yer all invited if your in town. Look at my website for my phone number and give me a shout...I'll then give you directions.....bring your kids and a dish (with food on it)and your guitars and drums.
Be Well
Namaste'
AndyIt's not who's right, it's who's left ~ http://CLIFFORDRENOVATIONS.COM
Andy,
Forget the alpacas. I've got neighbors doing it.
Raising these exotics (emus. ostrics, gerbils, three legged ponies, whatever) is like selling pyramid schemes. The thirty thousand dollar ones are created by scarcity at the top of the ladder. As the pyramid of supply grows, the original "purebreds" get more valuable until everybodies doing it. The markey for expensive alpacas now depends on finding suckers to buy your stock.
The wool is still worth more than everage if you want to be a wool rancher tho'. But like building, the profit is hard to find for the novice - you have to make some mistooks to learn on...
Excellence is its own reward!
Piffin...thanks,done! Didnt really wanna do it anyway..lol...PS where you from? Your profile is real cute but you hide where yer from,,,no biggie,,,,,,,,,cant blame ya actually!It's not who's right, it's who's left ~ http://CLIFFORDRENOVATIONS.COM
I don't advertise exactly who, what, where, and how I am because I work for some exclusive type customers who value their privacy. I'm on an island in Penobscot Bay, Maine. Some of the clientele here winters on Jupiter Island in Florida - read about that in Worth magazine.
Camden is near here and is an area that might merit your intrest. Very sound economically but inland you can find affordable acreage. Up around the bay is Cape Rossier where their are several of your type living (hope you don't mind catagorizing without judgement)
MBNA has a couple of facilities in the Midcoast region. I don't recommend Maine in some ways because of the political/economic vortex. This state has the highest taxes in the land, driving a lot of industries and jobs out. Then they try to fix the problem they've created by making things more restrictive and passing higher taxes. It createws an impoverished underclass that must be supported by - you got it - more taxes.
If it weren't for the summer community, Maine would be a third world country, deserving special help from Washington.
cie la vieExcellence is its own reward!
piff- my family has alot connections, in the state of maine. family in the jackman station area,moosehead lake, and attean lake. the family owns a camp on that lake and has been going up there for going on 3 generations . and still to this date we go up there every year or two, and i'm amazed at some of the lack of still to this day people have to do with. know i'm not some spoiled brat from the urban sprawl. but these people work very hard year round to just sqeak bye. but on the other hand the state is a very beautiful , and the lifestyle does have a less entrapments and calmer, less complicated. and the one 's who have are few and far between and at least in the jackman region there's an overlord mentality with the ones who have. aaahhh but that is small town life isnt it.... it is a very frustrating state because of the beauty, and the just step outside my back door living. but there is a very scary poverty problem and to be scooped up in that "vortex" is very scary thing for a skilled trades men. there are an abundance trade people, up in that direction. and work is not what i would call plentiful. but mr. piffin im very envious of your situation(work and living ) and i do love your state from arcadia national park to caribou every inche . but there is amiss in that state i do belive you pinpointed it . cheers & staywell the bear
Did the Allagash a whole lotta times. A week down that river with my wife and kid. Cant say I ever saw anything more beautiful and been a lot of places. Cold Spring HArbor where I live is nice but some of the people here.....ugh. Far and few between.
MAine is as you said kinda poverty stricken and I'd never move there. HAve friends that live in NYC that have nice house and property in the Brunswick area that I've been to a dozen times. Close to the fun town where LL Bean is but dont think I could take that world year round. Kinda need more intensity.....
Hey Bear....if you and yours want to come to the party here June 2 be my guest.
Be well
Namaste'
AndyIt's not who's right, it's who's left ~ http://CLIFFORDRENOVATIONS.COM
While you are out west, check out the Treasure Valley of Idaho. Been building like crazy for some time now, expect it to hold up much longer, I'm talking the Boise/Nampa/Caldwell area, but the mountains immediately to the North are building up, too. You can work year round because of the mild climate, the people here are great and you can find sports clubs (tennis) all over the place.....Good hunting!
thanks....I'll check it out on lineIt's not who's right, it's who's left ~ http://CLIFFORDRENOVATIONS.COM
Sounds like you need to check out Southern California! After you drop off the twelve year old off in S.F. just drive down the coast. Spend your first night in Carmel Valley and take it from there.
Jerry,,,,,funny enough...during an open house here today to sell this crib a potential buyer came in and couldnt stop talking about LAguna Beach so I looked on line at realestate sites...YA get a lot for your money compared to here believe it or not but it just aint my style..I like woods and the country feel otherwise I may as well stay right here.....but......gonna look in Carmel...thank god for the internet.
Thanks bro
AndyIt's not who's right, it's who's left ~ http://CLIFFORDRENOVATIONS.COM