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Bitterroot Valley Montana "remodel"

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It started as a remodel. After pouring new foundations and building the floor system for the additions, we got the new drawings from the architect and EVERY single exterior opening changed and so did all the interior walls. So here is the house as it stands today:

The homeowners are currently living in this thing with no plumbing and a stepladder for the entrance.

Of course, since we are now building a new custom home, we better build a simple little garage first, right? Right.

From the new front door area, looking north:

Looking south, house behind to left:

Details: 8x8 fir beams. Full dimension 2X cedar rafter tails and fly rafters. Fir braces. All curved. Siding will be cedar shingles. 9' walls everywhere, clad Sierra Pacific windows, 7'6" doors all around. Geothermal heat pump. Sprayfoam poly insulation. Stamped concrete.

Timber/fly rafter/verge rafter detail over "storage area"

Garage porch.

For an idea of where this is. Here is a picture of me standing on the roof. Today, 8/19, snow is still lingering on Gash Point left center, and less visibly, on Ranger Peak up the canyon right center. St. Mary's just out of view on the right.

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Jesse,

Very Nice! Cool brackets, tails, etc.

Brian

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Wait till Splintergrooper sees this!

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jesse,

Very nice work. Thanks for sharing.

Please post some pics of milling the tails and brackets.

Chuck S

live, work, build, ...better with wood
live, work, build, ...better with wood

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Dam nice!  View and work that is.  Or should that be work and view?

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In the first pic it looks like that shack is up on cribbing, like it was moved from somewhere.  What's the story.

"Put your creed in your deed."   Emerson


"When asked if you can do something, tell'em "Why certainly I can", then get busy and find a way to do it."  T. Roosevelt

"Put your creed in your deed."   Emerson

"When asked if you can do something, tell'em "Why certainly I can", then get busy and find a way to do it."  T. Roosevelt

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Very nice project - wish it were mine!


BTW, what is the joinery here?


 


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My guess is a half lap (mine have Cuprinol slathered on them so you can see the joint):

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...and the post connection?

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M&T I betcha.

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mutton and tomato?

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...where the mutton is nice and lean and the tomato is ripe. They're so perky, I love that. <g>

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Nicce garage

Too bad abou t hte house. Should have started that new so they'd bew able to live in the old while you do the work

 

 


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We did the best we could...

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location is prime, landscaping is amazing..existing house is being moved to a cheaper lot, but for now sits on cribbing in the field. we framed half the exterior walls today on our brand new floor system (50/50 on old/new foundation).

the cross/tie beam on that 8x8 connection is housed an inch onto the post. there are numerous large GRK washer head screws holding it together. i'll try and take pictures of my scribe rule cheating steps for pockets for the house porches.

i'll post some more pictures soon. kudos to mike smith, stan, chuck and others who post extensive project reports. it takes a lot of time. too long to bother with capital letters.


Edited 8/20/2009 11:00 pm ET by jesse

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nice  thread..  lot's  of  good  details  on  the  garage... i'm  a big   fan  of  generous  overhangs  and  that  has  them  in  spades


i'm  slowed  way  down  trying  to  figure  how  to  do  things  on  my  Mac...  the  last  bunch  i  posted  them on  my  Mac  and  edited  them on  my  PC


 


 


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Isn't it wild how everything is green when it should be burnt to a crisp now?

Is Ernie Otoupalik moving the house?

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Able moving and rigging did the move...and yeah, the august rain is crazy, and welcome.

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A Abel Moving=Ernie. I guess he wanted to be first in the phone book under "movers and shakers".

Those guys set my house down a quarter-inch off. I wrung my hands, so they picked it up again, and set it within a rat's whisker atop my foundation. I'm not sure they'd have down it as perfectly without the donuts, but that investment in sugar and fat was well worth it. Warning: they all disappear during the first couple weeks of hunting season; do not believe anything they tell you to the contrary! <g>

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OCD?

"Put your creed in your deed."   Emerson


"When asked if you can do something, tell'em "Why certainly I can", then get busy and find a way to do it."  T. Roosevelt

"Put your creed in your deed."   Emerson

"When asked if you can do something, tell'em "Why certainly I can", then get busy and find a way to do it."  T. Roosevelt

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I'm more on the ADD side of the meter, but i'm just lazy about shimming unless absolutely necessary. I was stitching the top of my basement to the house with plywood plates and wanted to be able to glue and nail it. And duct tape it.

OK, maybe a little bit OCD...

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Did you at least use the heavy duty duct tape?  Or the cheap silver stuff from Walmart?

"Put your creed in your deed."   Emerson


"When asked if you can do something, tell'em "Why certainly I can", then get busy and find a way to do it."  T. Roosevelt

"Put your creed in your deed."   Emerson

"When asked if you can do something, tell'em "Why certainly I can", then get busy and find a way to do it."  T. Roosevelt

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I think it was the heavy duty duck tape...i had to use a razor bill to cut it.

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"Warning: they all disappear during the first couple weeks of hunting season; do not believe anything they tell you to the contrary! <g>"

LOL, we get that problem here, especially frustrating when you need to get a foundation in place before freeze-up and the excavation and concrete guys are all in camp up north!

 

 


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Oh Well,

We did the best we could...

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I know! I have to get one more pour out of my guys before they load up the horses and skedaddle to the hills. I'm teaching myself The Monopour: footings, retaining walls, and slab...all at once, so we can fit the concrete truck ruts and be done with it, and my guys can go murder Bambi.

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AND IT'S ONLY THE END OF SUMMER!

dID YOU GET THE COVER STRIPPED OFF THE SLAB AND WHACK A TEST HAMMER ON IT YET?

sorry the caps - been working on notes on a plan with this keyboard

 

 


Welcome to the
Taunton University of
Knowledge FHB Campus at Breaktime.
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Excellence is its own reward!

 

 

Oh Well,

We did the best we could...

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Cover's off, looks fine. I don't know from "test hammer"...? I'm drilling holes for rebar this afternoon, and hoping the BOSCH hammerdrill doesn't go the way of me Bosch saw from my experiment cutting the control cracks with it.

In a continuation of my using offbeat materials like dishwasher drainers for chairs, i'm trying hanging-ceiling T-bar to support the wall over the footing. I understand some folks use 18" stakes, but hell, i'd have to BUY them! <G>

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A good hard cured bit of crete will pingggggg almost like steel on steel when you strike a hammer to it.

Well, actually it is the hammer that does the pinging.

 

 


Welcome to the
Taunton University of
Knowledge FHB Campus at Breaktime.
 where ...
Excellence is its own reward!

 

 

Oh Well,

We did the best we could...

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wtf


Edited 9/6/2009 12:45 pm ET by jesse

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Exterior walls are up and sheathed. Interior walls are framed. We poured two porch slabs on Friday. I am now trying to crank out roof parts because we need 100+ rafter tails, two timber porches (like the one on the covered part of the garage), multiple curved fly rafters, brackets, etc etc etc. I am not the contractor...I am just the dumb guy with timberframe shop experience so I am decent at producing lots of parts in a reasonable amount of time. I also rake concrete....


Porch forms with treated 2x4 embedded because the flared wall detail (that should be fun) comes down over the sides of the slabs.





That's me in the back. Picture by one of the homeowners.





Stampin.





About half the rafter tails awaiting further planning for the seat cut. Full dimension rough sawn cedar 2x6. Kiln dried and then resawn. Really nice stuff.


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The pic with the embedded nailer ... are those screws in the backside of the 2x4 that will anchor the 2x4 into the concrete slab?

"Put your creed in your deed."   Emerson


"When asked if you can do something, tell'em "Why certainly I can", then get busy and find a way to do it."  T. Roosevelt

"Put your creed in your deed."   Emerson

"When asked if you can do something, tell'em "Why certainly I can", then get busy and find a way to do it."  T. Roosevelt

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That is the idea. I had nothing to do with that decision, either. We'll probably throw a few bolts in later.