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this does'nt seem right to me!!!!

magdalena perez lazo's picture

hello, please help!!! nobody is helping us and this is our first custome home. please tell me that this is not the way its suppose to be!!!! i want it fixed!!!!

Which part is bothering you? (post #198851, reply #1 of 16)

Which part is bothering you?

HI (post #198851, reply #6 of 16)

EVERYTHING OF COURSE!!!

Did you pay big $$ for a (post #198851, reply #2 of 16)

Did you pay big $$ for a custome house? 

They should have at least cleaned up after themselves.

Save a buck or buck fifty on shorter wire runs for what looks to be cat5?  If so and nobody uses the space, actually a better installation just from an electrical connectivity purist viewpoint.

Wtf is the last pix, just a bunch of wire stubs coming out thru a hole and chopped off??  That whole soffit looks like pretty crappy workmanship. 

YES I THINK I PAID BIG!!! I (post #198851, reply #7 of 16)

YES I THINK I PAID BIG!!! I PAID $2000,00 dlls. FOR ELECRTIAL EXTRAS on a $280,000 dlls home in texas.  AND OVERHERE THATS BIG MONEY!!!MY HOUSE IS 2,900 SF.APROXIMATLEY.

YES I THINK I PAID BIG!!! I (post #198851, reply #8 of 16)

YES I THINK I PAID BIG!!! I PAID $2000,00 dlls. FOR ELECRTIAL EXTRAS on a $280,000 dlls home in texas.  AND OVERHERE THATS BIG MONEY!!!MY HOUSE IS 2,900 SF.APROXIMATLEY.

That last shot is wiring for (post #198851, reply #3 of 16)

That last shot is wiring for a light or motion sensor or some such, yet to be installed -- not a problem.  The low-voltage (I hope!) wiring that's run hither and yon in the other shots looks ugly and is poor workmanship (IMO), but if you challenge guy he's just going to tell you that it's "good practice" to not run the cables in bunches -- reduces "crosstalk".  (But the cables should be routed in a way that protects them better from damage and makes it possible to crawl through the area without getting entangled in them.  I've never been known for my neat cabling, but I'd never create a mess that bad.)

In the second shot I see an arrow pointing to what appears to be a piece of Romex, run only slightly less haphazardly than the LV wiring.  That appears offhand to be a code violation -- the wire is not adequately protected from damage and may (hard to tell) be pinched between the joist and the HVAC duct.  Can't tell what the other arrow is pointing to.


Of all the preposterous assumptions of humanity over humanity, nothing exceeds most of the criticisms made on the habits of the poor by the well-housed, well-warmed, and well-fed.  --Herman Melville

Hello Mr. DanH, Thanks for (post #198851, reply #5 of 16)

Hello Mr. DanH, Thanks for the reply. Just to let you know and to know what do you think, the last picture  is supposed to be for an exterior recessed light.  and I dont know anything about elecrical violations but to me the city inspector violated the codes. let me think what you honestly think abou t this other pictures. Thanks Alot!!! 

That does appear to be a (post #198851, reply #9 of 16)

That does appear to be a splice, which would of course be forbidden outside of a box.  But it's hard to tell for sure without removing the tape -- could simply be a wad of tape that was used to coil up the cable at one point and never removed.

The rough-ins for the exterior lights are fairly normal -- nothing to get excited about.  The stud-on-cable situation is hard to read from here -- not pretty, but not a serious problem unless the "stud" is load-bearing (and I suspect it's not).

Otherwise, pretty sloppy (as previously noted), but rough wiring is rarely pretty (though I have seen exceptions).


Of all the preposterous assumptions of humanity over humanity, nothing exceeds most of the criticisms made on the habits of the poor by the well-housed, well-warmed, and well-fed.  --Herman Melville

The stud-on-cable situation (post #198851, reply #11 of 16)

The stud-on-cable situation is hard to read from here

As I was posting, DW looked over my shoulder and saw the stud pix.  Ya gotta remember DW is not technical and has done framing and roofing and never has done any electrical, not even install and outlet, but even her comment was:

"OMG, get the fire department in there",  "they need to be reported", and  'glad you never do anything like that, though I know you like to just throw some stuff together sometimes" 

mag (post #198851, reply #4 of 16)

If the job isn't finished, tell the general contractor that this is not acceptable and you want it taken care of.

or

no final payment.

A Great Place for Information, Comraderie, and a Sucker Punch.

Remodeling Contractor just outside the Glass City.


http://www.quittintime.com/

 


Yep, after seeing the rest of (post #198851, reply #10 of 16)

Yep, after seeing the rest of the photos,  a really poor job. 

Agree with what Calvin said, totally NOT acceptable.  Those wires under the stud are an abomination! 

My cheap backyard sheds are wired and constructed better, and they are 'slopped'  together from scraps just to get stuff out of the rain.

Not to offend given your spanish name,  but the work does look to be done by  UNSKILLED persons who may be undocumented.  INS and IRS might be interested in your contractor - your leverage to get it all fixed?  

very sad (post #198851, reply #12 of 16)

thanks guys!!! sadly this people abandoned the construction site and nobody is helping us. the house is  unhabitable because was left about 60% done and done wrong!!!! the bank didnt care and we need to start paying our monthly payments because the loan matured. this was our 1st custom home ever and they ruined it!!!! nobody s g nna want to finish somebody elses job and give us warranties!!! whadt 

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yep, sad, gives the entire (post #198851, reply #13 of 16)

yep, sad, gives the entire industry a black eye.

Did they skip after getting paid for 100%, or do you still have $$ left to finish. 

I'd not worry about any warranty, anything implied at the start is long gone now anyway, no use 'crying over spilt milk', or so the saying goes.

Ask here and over at 'breaktime classic'  for referrals, lots of good craftsmen still looking for work. http://forums.delphiforums.com/n/main.asp?webtag=breaktimeclass&nav=start&prettyurl=%2Fbreaktimeclass%2Fstart

for recommendation of folks in your area who can give you a handle on reputable, high class, competent people to finish the job for you.  

If youare physically able, you could always DIY the rest?  Never to late to learn new skills, and a good excuse to buy tools <G>

If I had to guess, the (post #198851, reply #14 of 16)

If I had to guess, the general contractor did the electrical extras. There is no licensed or certified electrician around here that would do most of what I see. The bunched up cables and cable drops are standard practice. The splice is a big no-no but could have been just for temporary wiring. All in all, if an electrician did actually do some of that work, they should have been fired.

I'm sorry for your luck with the bank.

Standard Practice? (post #198851, reply #15 of 16)

If that is standard practice in your area, my condolences.

A Great Place for Information, Comraderie, and a Sucker Punch.

Remodeling Contractor just outside the Glass City.


http://www.quittintime.com/

 


was curious if this (post #198851, reply #16 of 16)

was curious if this electician was the same one who originally done  the work on the rest of the house. How did his quote compare to the other quotes you got?  this was a hard lesson learned for you i'm sure . there is alot of info out the on how to pick a competent contractor in your area. and if the price someone gives is quite a-bit less then their competitors ,this is a red flag . sorry to see the sub-standard worked performed by someone who is obviously not a real electician.

mc