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"appliance lift" ...

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for an installer .... to lift say ... a double oven into the hole ....


not an appliance lift to swing a mixer under the counter top when not in use.


 


OK ... "appliance lift"


buddy of mine was asked by a designer why he didn't have one.


my answer ... 'cause I never heard of one!


or seen one.


 


so .. what the heck is it?


googled with no luck.


 


I'm picturing a small genie lift ... hand crank deal with forks.


'cept most genies I've rented max out at about 500 or 600 lbs ...


 


and this designer insists the "other installer" ... has one ... that can lift "1000lbs".


 


we were to be able to borrow this mystery lift ... but that deal fell thru.


I wanted to borrow it to see what he's talking about.


now I'm curious.


 


as far as using a genie lift ... ya still gotta get it off the floor and onto the lift ...


and getting 330lbs "off" the floor is the hard part ... if ya gotta lift it 3 inches to get it on the lift ... may as well go the full 18" or so and stick it in the cabinet.


 


what's an appliance lift ... and what am I missing with it's usefullness?


 


Thanks.


Jeff


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(post #125171, reply #1 of 24)

Check this site out http://www.woodworker.com  They have an appliance lift. It's pretty cool.

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Not that kind of lift (post #125171, reply #17 of 24)

Note, the original poster said: "not an appliance lift to swing a mixer under the counter top when not in use."

You know this is a 6-year-old (post #125171, reply #18 of 24)

You know this is a 6-year-old thread, right?


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(post #125171, reply #2 of 24)

Last time I had to do this I used some 2x4 in a cribbing pattern under the appliance to raise to the height I needed. Just had to make sure the top pieces were the right way to slide off of. Never needed a special lift for this.

(post #125171, reply #3 of 24)

Just saw a camper lift at the rental yard - designed to lift the camper shell from the ground to the edge of a pickup truck.  Hand crank and a chain, looked like gear reduction but I'm not sure of its capacity.  You rented the pair for $36.

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(post #125171, reply #5 of 24)

I use mine to hold up one end of a car frame.

(post #125171, reply #4 of 24)

   We use some like your describing to stack and unstack Safe deposit boxes and other real heavy items. We've always called them table lifts. I'm headed out of town for a few days but when I get back I'll try to get a manufacturers name off of one.


 


 


 


 


 Think ya used enough dynamite there, Butch?

            

 

   

(post #125171, reply #6 of 24)

I just installed 30" double ovens; they weighed in well over 300#.  Built a platform and ramp, wheeled them up and slid them in.  An appliance lift, although I never heard of one, would be a great idea, just not sure how soon the pay-off period would be.  Of course, the first time you wrench your back out wrestling ovens/window acs, etc., and spend the next two weeks recovering, you might wish you'd had one.


 


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(post #125171, reply #7 of 24)

How bout one of these?

http://www.e-zspreadnlift.com/

Don't own one, never used one. Says it will lift up to 300# so it would me hurt'n with a double oven.

Not too different than a genie lift other than a smaller footprint.

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(post #125171, reply #8 of 24)

See ....


 


just what I thot!


no one here has a clue either!!


 


I'm thinking the other guy just over-extended his cab lift.


I did ask the designer if it was a cab lift ... and spoke designer language for about an hour and I'm pretty sure he tried to say the dude had a cab lift AND this mystery appliance lift ....


 


last coupla double ovens I've hoisted have been right at the 330 lbs mark ...


but this last one was/is heavier. A Wolf ... and the packaging called it right at 400lbs.


 


I just double checked the Wolf site ... quick spec's just say the cabinet has to support a minimum of 400lbs ... so that's the weight I'll stick with.


 


Jeff


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(post #125171, reply #9 of 24)

OK ... my buddy got to use the thing ...


I missed the big show.


 


still have no idea what the thing is really called.


he said is was marked something-hoist.


 


so maybe it's an appliance hoist or an oven hoist.


said might have had an "all pro" sticker somewhere on it.


basically ... he was no help what so ever.


 


anyways ... said it was like a little genie lift ... a crank deal.


had some sorta arms that extended over the sides ... some sorta platform or forks to lift. Said ya positioned everything ... cranked ... it all squeezed together ...


then when U lifted took two people to keep the thing from falling over backwards under the weight of the oven.


they weren't impressed.


 


I'm still curious dammit!


 


his explination of how it worked was clear as mud ... I still don't see how arms can grab the side ... and not squish the sides of the face frame ... and slide the thing into a cab box with pretty much no clearance ... where said metal face frame covers said hole. I'm so confused ...


 


Jeff


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(post #125171, reply #10 of 24)

This is supposed to lift 1400 lbs.


http://www.e-zspreadnlift.com

(post #125171, reply #11 of 24)

"Both models can support up to 300 lbs. "


 


what am I missing there? did I miss a different page to click?


anyways ... I've moved on from the "maybe he used a cab lift" thot and am now in search of an honest to goodness "oven lift" ... or "oven hoist" ... or "appliance" version of either.


then again .... my idiot buddy probably read the damn thing wrong!


 


 


wonder if it's still on site .... might have to go out of my way tomorrow and see this wonder in person .... it really is driving me nuts!


nada at google or yahoo ....


 


Let's keep those eyes open people! someone's gotta spot one sooner or later ...


 


Jeff


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(post #125171, reply #12 of 24)

How about this?


Genie Lift GL-4:  5' 11" maximum lift height, 500lb load capacity.


Click the PDF link near the bottom of the page, product specifications.


http://www.genielift.com/ml-series/ml-1-3.asp


zak


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zak

"When we build, let us think that we build forever.  Let it not be for present delight nor for present use alone." --John Ruskin

"so it goes"

 

(post #125171, reply #13 of 24)

that's what I'm starting to think ...


they just used a genie lift and some idgit designer didn't know what it was and gave it a fancy name?


 


but man ... that'd be a pain. I've rented Genies in the past and they ain't light!


no way I'd want one riding in the back of my work truck ... box van or no.


 


it'd work though ...


Jeff


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(post #125171, reply #15 of 24)

Don't know how I lost the 1400 lb site, but here's another.


http://www.southworthproducts.com

Appliance Lift = Hydraulic Lift table (post #125171, reply #16 of 24)

Go to the website for Harbor Freight and search for "Hydraulic Table" and "Motorcycle Lift".   You will find at leat 4 items that can be used as appliance lifts.  Such as:

item#94822     500lb  27"   hydraulic lift table  ($159)

item#60438   1,000lb 34"  hydraulic lift table  ($244)

item#69995   1,500lb  17"   ATV/Motorcycle Lift ($99)

 

The lift tables look like the best bet.  They lift straight up and therefore it's easier to slide the appliance off the table and into the cabinet. 

However, none of these can negotiate stairs or steps.  For that you need a movers dolly with a crank lift for the lifting toe plate, such as the  Vestil LLW-202058-FW Light Load Lift with Hand Winch ($467)

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loken (post #125171, reply #20 of 24)

Two suggestions:

Learn to type.

Read the thread to find out this isn't a curtain hanging question.

 

And yes, there's a third-

Don't SPAM this forum!

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calvin... (post #125171, reply #21 of 24)

You old meany, he may of had some good stuffs...............

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sorry man, (post #125171, reply #22 of 24)

Golf league in a couple weeks and it's still too damn cold, wet, some snow still hanging on..............

Opening day can't get here soon enough, but it's next Monday in Oakland........damn 10pm start.

I retired and answered the phone...........

He had everything going against him.

 

 

Good stuffs?   You had an interpreter when you read his post ..........now, didn't you?

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"Some" snow still hanging (post #125171, reply #23 of 24)

"Some" snow still hanging on??  Heck it's still a foot deep in most of our yard.  (Though I'm thankful we're not out on the East Coast where some areas are expecting 18" of new stuff.)


Of all the preposterous assumptions of humanity over humanity, nothing exceeds most of the criticisms made on the habits of the poor by the well-housed, well-warmed, and well-fed.  --Herman Melville

re: lift (post #125171, reply #24 of 24)

 

Better late than never....

I think what the designer may have been referring too was an airsled. essentially a blower motor that provides air to lifting bags that lets you lift up heavy appliances . which floating on air cushions much like a hydrofoil boat, can be moved around effortlessly  on hard floors (don't work worth crap on carpet, but if you lay out some HPL scraps on the carpet, it i s doable!)and reducing the risk of damaging the floor. Your flooring tool supply folks can get you one. I paid 25 bucks for mine 15 years ago from a used tool store who didn't know what it was. For what it's worth, most of my trades buddies still ain't tuned into them.

Pays to lurk in other trade tool catalogues....

 

I had to install a double oven once upon a time so I made a stand on castors which I could wheel up to the inset space and slide in easily. Yep theiy're heavy.

My 25 bucks has been repaid many times over. All my neighbours love it too!


Eric